Comments on: Why are environmental NGOs pushing for a later peak emissions year than the IPCC? http://www.globaldashboard.org/2009/12/06/environmental-ngos-peak-emissions-year/ Global risks and how to respond to them, edited by Alex Evans and David Steven Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:49:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brad Johnson http://www.globaldashboard.org/2009/12/06/environmental-ngos-peak-emissions-year/comment-page-1/#comment-17564 Brad Johnson Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:35:13 +0000 http://www.globaldashboard.org/?p=12376#comment-17564 What we need is to have activist groups start saying that we've passed the threshhold of safety and security, and that each additional ton of carbon, each year emissions rise, each year concentrations do not drop -- we are killing people. We need to separate the science -- that we are at unsafe levels of greenhouse gases and our destabilized climate is killing people -- from the policy -- setting deadlines and targets. We know that any deadline or target to eradicate hunger and poverty is insufficient, but we make them anyway. We need the same understanding with climate change. What we need is to have activist groups start saying that we’ve passed the threshhold of safety and security, and that each additional ton of carbon, each year emissions rise, each year concentrations do not drop — we are killing people.

We need to separate the science — that we are at unsafe levels of greenhouse gases and our destabilized climate is killing people — from the policy — setting deadlines and targets.

We know that any deadline or target to eradicate hunger and poverty is insufficient, but we make them anyway. We need the same understanding with climate change.

]]> By: Vivek http://www.globaldashboard.org/2009/12/06/environmental-ngos-peak-emissions-year/comment-page-1/#comment-17554 Vivek Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:16:09 +0000 http://www.globaldashboard.org/?p=12376#comment-17554 While I agree with you in principle, in this case the differences may be due to compromise - everyone could do what Canada did at Kyoto - commit to strong emissions decreases and then not live up to it. While I agree with you in principle, in this case the differences may be due to compromise – everyone could do what Canada did at Kyoto – commit to strong emissions decreases and then not live up to it.

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