http://www.globaldashboard.org/2007/12/19/climate-change-the-state-of-the-debate/ Global risks and how to respond to them, edited by Alex Evans and David Steven Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:49:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://www.globaldashboard.org/2007/12/19/climate-change-the-state-of-the-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-217 Charles Seligman Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:19:02 +0000 http://www.globaldashboard.org/climate-change/climate-change-the-state-of-the-debate/#comment-217 There is no more "hockeystick graphs", polar bears are doing exceptionally fine, sealevel forecasts have been "corrected" from Gore's meters, to inches till 2100, hottest temperatures where not 1998, mediaval temperatures were warmer than today's, and they had no SUV's and I could go on and on about the serious fallacies of the ICCP's reports, of course based on new peer reviewed research, showing UN's unethical and criminal behaviour to get to their pre-determined problem/solution at any cost. The tide is clearly turning in favor of the so-called "deniers", comparing any skeptic as a holocaust denier. The mass media, complicit in the propaganda of the end of world scare mongering, should be a little more balanced by listening to both sides of the arguments. But my hope of that happening is rather naive, so, lets keep those unfunded skeptics prove it online. There is no more “hockeystick graphs”, polar bears are doing exceptionally fine, sealevel forecasts have been “corrected” from Gore’s meters, to inches till 2100, hottest temperatures where not 1998, mediaval temperatures were warmer than today’s, and they had no SUV’s and I could go on and on about the serious fallacies of the ICCP’s reports, of course based on new peer reviewed research, showing UN’s unethical and criminal behaviour to get to their pre-determined problem/solution at any cost. The tide is clearly turning in favor of the so-called “deniers”, comparing any skeptic as a holocaust denier. The mass media, complicit in the propaganda of the end of world scare mongering, should be a little more balanced by listening to both sides of the arguments. But my hope of that happening is rather naive, so, lets keep those unfunded skeptics prove it online.

]]> http://www.globaldashboard.org/2007/12/19/climate-change-the-state-of-the-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-216 Mark Weston Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:05:42 +0000 http://www.globaldashboard.org/climate-change/climate-change-the-state-of-the-debate/#comment-216 It seems to me that technological solutions will be ineffective without a social movement to support them. Hybrid cars are all very well, but if people aren't willing to spend a bit extra to buy one, they won't make much difference to the weather. Similarly, taxes and regulations may be good ideas, but politicians won't implement them unless public pressure forces them to. We need a new political compact, a new civil rights or anti-slavery movement. This is not a problem that can be left to politicians and scientists to solve - it's time to trigger social change too. It seems to me that technological solutions will be ineffective without a social movement to support them. Hybrid cars are all very well, but if people aren’t willing to spend a bit extra to buy one, they won’t make much difference to the weather. Similarly, taxes and regulations may be good ideas, but politicians won’t implement them unless public pressure forces them to. We need a new political compact, a new civil rights or anti-slavery movement. This is not a problem that can be left to politicians and scientists to solve – it’s time to trigger social change too.

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